View Full Version : Drop the BSC?
Arch52
12-04-2005, 06:31 PM
how bout a yes...
I think it worked good this year.
Oh well, just my opinion.
Live4this13
12-04-2005, 06:34 PM
obviously it did, because there was only 2 unbeatens. Add a 3rd to the mix and it would be confusion again.
biggieswoles21
12-04-2005, 06:52 PM
They should add a playoff game if the number third team is unbeaten in a BCS conference.
no, like it how it is, i want USC to win again. UT i just dont like
Arch52
12-04-2005, 10:06 PM
well i like the nat'l champ. game, no complaints there. im just pissed oregon wasnt given a bsc game, call me a homer whatever. oregon has a better record... yes i know nd played usc 2 but they had 2 weeks to prepare for the game. ND also lost to MSU, 5-6 at home! their opponent winning percentage was under 500, oregons was around 550, oregon has had more wins in the past 12 years and more bowl games, and wins in those past 12 years. Number 6 over number 5... hmmm go figure.
PolPow53
12-05-2005, 12:39 PM
its bCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brick_53
12-05-2005, 02:50 PM
More like BS
Live4this13
12-05-2005, 03:04 PM
the bcs doesnt select the bowl teams just the national championship. After that it is up to the people putting on the bowls, at least this is what I thought.
PolPow53
12-05-2005, 04:37 PM
the bcs doesnt select the bowl teams just the national championship. After that it is up to the people putting on the bowls, at least this is what I thought.
no, theres bowls, and then theres the bcs bowls like a sugar, rose,fiesta, etc. All those are part of the bowl championship series, while other bowls like the motor city bowls are by invites and not predetermined.
Arch52
12-05-2005, 05:27 PM
More like BS
thank.... you, someone on here has a brain... or atleast uses their's.
Live4this13
12-05-2005, 06:45 PM
alright makes sence.
SemiSlow
12-06-2005, 12:51 PM
the bcs doesnt select the bowl teams just the national championship. After that it is up to the people putting on the bowls, at least this is what I thought.
Aside from the national championship game, the other 3 BCS bowls have can choose any team that's won at least 9 games and is ranked in the BCS. That's why ND is going to the BCS and Oregon isn't.
Arch52
12-06-2005, 04:24 PM
its all politics
Air Klima 23
12-06-2005, 04:38 PM
its all politics
Exactly put the teams on TV that people wanna see, no offense Notre Dame has more TV value than Oregan, unless you live in Oregan.
Arch52
12-06-2005, 09:32 PM
airklima23, you are right, nd has more tv value, i wont argue that. secondly why cant ppl pronounce or spell O-R-E-G-O-N right? ;)
you'd think though that having a centralized target population would get less views (ND/OSU both in the midwest). Now if you had Oregon in the mix, you, you'd get a lot more views now with the NW, W, and midwest. Trust the Pac-10 has a loyal fan base and we all support each other in our bowl games. I want USC, UCLA, etc to win. Just like how i loved watching ND get STOMPED by oreg. st TWICE!!!
but nd at best would be a middle of the road pac 10 team (37-34 win of Stan.) who lost to a d1-aa team. Yeah they lost by 3 to USC, but they had 2 weeks of preparation... no other team had that.
in all honesty ND gets in becuz they have a tradition... which is interesting becuz their last bowl win was in '92... some tradition.
anyways another year... another problem with the bcs...
Air Klima 23
12-07-2005, 07:21 AM
[QUOTE=Arch52]airklima23, you are right, nd has more tv value, i wont argue that. secondly why cant ppl pronounce or spell O-R-E-G-O-N right? ;)
QUOTE]
Oops my bad...I was typin too fast. lol
SemiSlow
12-07-2005, 08:32 AM
airklima23, you are right, nd has more tv value, i wont argue that. secondly why cant ppl pronounce or spell O-R-E-G-O-N right? ;)
you'd think though that having a centralized target population would get less views (ND/OSU both in the midwest). Now if you had Oregon in the mix, you, you'd get a lot more views now with the NW, W, and midwest. Trust the Pac-10 has a loyal fan base and we all support each other in our bowl games. I want USC, UCLA, etc to win. Just like how i loved watching ND get STOMPED by oreg. st TWICE!!!
but nd at best would be a middle of the road pac 10 team (37-34 win of Stan.) who lost to a d1-aa team. Yeah they lost by 3 to USC, but they had 2 weeks of preparation... no other team had that.
in all honesty ND gets in becuz they have a tradition... which is interesting becuz their last bowl win was in '92... some tradition.
anyways another year... another problem with the bcs...
2 words: GO IRISH!
biggieswoles21
12-07-2005, 04:14 PM
Even though Oregon's loss was to the number one team in the nation. They still are an average team. Put them in a BCS conference and they will struggle to stay in the middle of things. ND had a harder schedule because they play teams from there independants conference and team from the SEC Big Ten and Pac-10.
PolPow53
12-07-2005, 05:41 PM
Rally sons of Notre Dame,
Sing her glory, and sound her fame
Raise her Gold and Blue,
And cheer with voices true,
Rah! Rah! For Notre Dame.
We will fight in every game
Strong of heart and true to her name.
We will ne'er forget her
And we'll cheer her ever,
Loyal to Notre Dame.
Chorus:
Cheer, cheer for Old Notre Dame
Wake up the echoes cheering her name,
Send the volley cheer on high,
Shake down the thunder from the sky,
What though the odds be great or small
Old Notre Dame will win over all,
While her loyal sons are marching
Onward to Victory.
Air Klima 23
12-07-2005, 05:54 PM
Hey Im a ND fan too, I have a friend who plays on their basketball team.
I was just explaining why the BCS picked ND over Oregon.
biggieswoles21
12-07-2005, 06:03 PM
My dad is a ND fan he only knows a couple of players on there team now. Like darius walker, brady quinn, and jeff semarja.
The congress said that there will be no playoffs. Some protestors said that it would take away the tradition of college football, and it would take away the importance of the regular season. The BCS could consider adding it and and it could go into effectwhen they sign another contract if they add it. the BCS signed a new onteract like 2 years ago for 6 years I think. i'm not exactly sure though.
Arch52
12-07-2005, 07:04 PM
Even though Oregon's loss was to the number one team in the nation. They still are an average team. Put them in a BCS conference and they will struggle to stay in the middle of things. ND had a harder schedule because they play teams from there independants conference and team from the SEC Big Ten and Pac-10.
EAST COAST BIAS!!!
ND versus pac 10 teams 5 games 2-3. ;) .. washington shouldnt count, and they barely beat stanford
Norte Shame at best would be a MIDDLE of the road pac-10 team... they couldnt beat Oregon St, USC, UCLA, Cal, Oregon, ASU... should i go on?
ND barely beat UW by about 10 or so... oregon beat them by 31... nd escaped from stanford by three... oregon beat stanford at stanford by more than 30.... need more info?
ND really had a tough schedule... only their opponents winning percentage was under .500.... POWDERPUFF!
about ratings.... oregons fiest bowl game against colorado, had higher ratings than Ohio states last 2.... hmmm....
to everyone else
DUCK U
SemiSlow
12-08-2005, 10:53 AM
ND barely beat UW by about 10 or so...
They beat Washington 36-17...19, 10 what's the difference right?
nd escaped from stanford by three
They beat Stanford 38-31.
Notre Dame lost to: (A) The #1 team in the country, and (B) a under-achieving but talented Big Ten team.
It makes no difference if they beat Washington, or Stanford, or anyone else by fewer points than you find acceptable. The bottom line is winning.
Of course, we could look at Oregon losing to USC by 32, or only beating Arizona (3-8) by 7, or only beating Washington St. (4-7) by 3.
ND barely beat UW by about 10 or so... oregon beat them by 31... nd escaped from stanford by three... oregon beat stanford at stanford by more than 30....
For the record, Oregon beat both these teams by 24, but again who's really keeping track, right?
It doesnt matter because Ohio State is gonna own Notre Dame and they would own Oregon too if they played in it!
Arch52
12-08-2005, 05:18 PM
They beat Washington 36-17...19, 10 what's the difference right?
They beat Stanford 38-31.
Notre Dame lost to: (A) The #1 team in the country, and (B) a under-achieving but talented Big Ten team.
It makes no difference if they beat Washington, or Stanford, or anyone else by fewer points than you find acceptable. The bottom line is winning.
Of course, we could look at Oregon losing to USC by 32, or only beating Arizona (3-8) by 7, or only beating Washington St. (4-7) by 3.
For the record, Oregon beat both these teams by 24, but again who's really keeping track, right?
okay yeah my math was off from those two games... my point was that oregon still won by more points than ND did.
ND .vs. UW & Stan.
36-17 19pt diff.
38-31 7 point diff
Oregon .vs. UW & Stan.
45-21 24 pt diff
44-20 24 pt diff
I'll give ND some credit about their near win... im not a complete homer. that was quite a game and you guys played hard... i wish oregon would've known you play 2 halves in football.
I agree partly w/ king... ya'll get smashed by osu... if oregon were to have played osu... id say it'd be a close game, but you guys would get us late... GO OSU!
PolPow53
12-08-2005, 05:21 PM
trying to compare teams by their scores versus the same opponents is useless.
Bottom line:
Oregon sucks...their mascot is a duck!
Arch52
12-08-2005, 05:31 PM
east coast bias once more... you guys sure are ignorant
trying to compare teams by their scores versus the same opponents is useless.
Finally, someone understands
Arch52
12-08-2005, 05:55 PM
Oregon is still a better team than nd, and i am sticking to my opinions regardless...
Air Klima 23
12-08-2005, 06:04 PM
Oregon is still a better team than nd, and i am sticking to my opinions regardless...
And you're entitled to it.
biggieswoles21
12-08-2005, 06:54 PM
Of course you think so you are defending your team. you should take it from a neutral fan. I'm not a fan of either team. Oregon does stink. Put them in the ACC who could the beat? NC state maybe...wake forest....and maybe clemson. SEC kentucky, tennessee currently, well maybe not them either, vandy, miss state, and ole miss. Big ten...Hmm.loss to OSU, loss from Michigan, loss from NW, loss from Wisconsin, loss from MSU, loss from Iowa, I know yall wouldn't beat the nittany lions. So who does that leave
Ok Since you wanna play the both teams beat the same team. Since you are saying Oregon is better than ND, and ND bearly lost to USC. Do you think you would beat fresno state, a team that lost to USC by 8?
SemiSlow
12-08-2005, 08:29 PM
okay yeah my math was off from those two games... my point was that oregon still won by more points than ND did.
ND .vs. UW & Stan.
36-17 19pt diff.
38-31 7 point diff
Oregon .vs. UW & Stan.
45-21 24 pt diff
44-20 24 pt diff
I'll give ND some credit about their near win... im not a complete homer. that was quite a game and you guys played hard... i wish oregon would've known you play 2 halves in football.
I agree partly w/ king... ya'll get smashed by osu... if oregon were to have played osu... id say it'd be a close game, but you guys would get us late... GO OSU!
Margin of victory = meaningless.
And we'll see on January 2. :)
SemiSlow
12-08-2005, 08:32 PM
Of course you think so you are defending your team. you should take it from a neutral fan. I'm not a fan of either team. Oregon does stink. Put them in the ACC who could the beat? NC state maybe...wake forest....and maybe clemson. SEC kentucky, tennessee currently, well maybe not them either, vandy, miss state, and ole miss. Big ten...Hmm.loss to OSU, loss from Michigan, loss from NW, loss from Wisconsin, loss from MSU, loss from Iowa, I know yall wouldn't beat the nittany lions. So who does that leave
Ok Since you wanna play the both teams beat the same team. Since you are saying Oregon is better than ND, and ND bearly lost to USC. Do you think you would beat fresno state, a team that lost to USC by 8?
Not trying to argue against our cause, but Oregon did beat Fresno.
Arch52
12-08-2005, 09:19 PM
ya lol, i good try though....
Look the case i am trying to make is that Oregon deserves more credit than given.
I want an honest responce to this question.
How many of you have watched a ducks game this year, not including highlights?
Arch52
12-08-2005, 09:23 PM
oregon won 37-34, a game in which many thought we'd get creamed... which we were for 2 qtrs.
SemiSlow
12-08-2005, 10:35 PM
I saw Oregon against OSU (Civil War); they did look impressive.
One last point: Notre Dame plays teams from the Big East, Big Ten, Pac Ten, Mountain West, and the SEC. They often have to compete against a completely different style of football every week. This does make a difference.
biggieswoles21
12-09-2005, 05:14 PM
Oh my bad I don't keep up with Oregon. but I watched the USC Oregon game.
Arch52
12-09-2005, 05:25 PM
i just hope oregon doesnt pull a CAL. No 5 in BCS last year, lost to usc, like oregon. Got screwed out of the BCS game, played in the holiday bowl, i think Texas Tech, or was it Utah? Any way they got blown out because they all thought it'd be a cake walk. I think Oregons spread offence and Dennis Dixon will overwhelm Oklahoma. I also want to see Adrian Peterson .vs. The ducks front seven.
Tyrius
12-09-2005, 05:34 PM
They should do playoffs and each game will be a bowl.
Arch52
12-09-2005, 06:06 PM
I think if they use a playoff system, i think it should be limited to 8 teams no more than 16, then you run a risk of having guys getting injured blah blah... then have like a playoff like the NIT, for the best of the rest.
lieutenant 24
12-12-2005, 07:06 PM
GO TEXAS
bcs worked out this year but most of the time it screws up and doesnt work out at all. I think they should drop it
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