View Full Version : what does everyone powerclean? i have a question.
DBJohn24
12-06-2005, 09:07 PM
what does everyone power clean? because at my old high school we focused on power cleans alot. i finished high school with a max of 275, but i was able to rep 225 around 10 times. pretty much everyone on my varsity squad maxed over 240. and the school record is 365, which was set by Chris Barrett of USC right now. It just seems to me that either the kids that come to my school are just good at it, or that alot of kids just arent. because i see alot of highly recruited players, and players with other strong lifts in the squat and bench can barely power clean above 220. whats up with this?
PolPow53
12-06-2005, 09:07 PM
270 as a soph.
tank87
12-07-2005, 01:00 PM
I cnt power clean for shit....
Backa53
12-07-2005, 01:04 PM
I cnt power clean for shit....
That's the gerneral consensous
Emotional
12-07-2005, 02:49 PM
I cnt power clean for shit....
do u have small biceps?
hunterhenzler
12-07-2005, 03:56 PM
I've got 150, and was just a little away from 155
poobum
12-07-2005, 04:21 PM
250-280 depending on the day! or at least i cud last summer! havent been doing it since about august!
RavenStorm
12-07-2005, 04:52 PM
I have horrible form for powercleans i do them just so i can get the form down.
frobro
12-07-2005, 08:16 PM
Our record is 325. I think our FB who weighs only like 190 is gonna break it. I powerclean 240 but I just started doing them in January.
Emotional
12-08-2005, 05:10 PM
I have horrible form for powercleans i do them just so i can get the form down.
Same here. My Powercleans are crap also.
Bubba LB 4
12-08-2005, 06:16 PM
Max at 235 while weighing 180 (as a soph). My school sucks at cleans, as my crappy clean is one of the best at the school.
footballstar
12-08-2005, 06:20 PM
I maxed out at 235 over the summer and probably could have got 240 but I got too greedy and jumped to 250 and didn't make it but I am a late boomer so give me a few months.
DBJohn24
12-08-2005, 07:26 PM
I maxed out at 235 over the summer and probably could have got 240 but I got too greedy and jumped to 250 and didn't make it but I am a late boomer so give me a few months.
youre a pretty good example of what im talking about....your a big strong kid. i remember u saying u deadlift 450 or so? i may be incorrect. but then u only clean 240. at my school thats what sophmore lineman get, thats what i got sophmore year weighing around 165-170 too. sorry if i sound rude, im not meaning it to be like that. but i do also remember u saying u would train cleans AFTER deadlifts. correct?
WisconsinFitness
12-08-2005, 08:25 PM
That seems to be the case in our school as well, DBJohn24. We have plenty of kids strong in the squat, bench, deadlift area but not so good in the powerclean. We have quite a few guys squatting over 500 lbs, but those same guys barely powerclean over 200 lbs..as a matter of fact, we only have around 3 or 4 guys in our school that powerclean over 200 pounds.
This summer I maxed out at 225 for powerclean(before football) so that was my max. I know a lot of schools in my area either heavily emphasize powerclean or dislike it for certain reasons. I know our school is more adamant about squat, bench, deadlift than powercleans..but powerclean is such a good movement for determing strength/explosiveness, one of my favorite actually. It's the best exercise, in my opinion, for building overall strength.
footballstar
12-09-2005, 04:48 AM
youre a pretty good example of what im talking about....your a big strong kid. i remember u saying u deadlift 450 or so? i may be incorrect. but then u only clean 240. at my school thats what sophmore lineman get, thats what i got sophmore year weighing around 165-170 too. sorry if i sound rude, im not meaning it to be like that. but i do also remember u saying u would train cleans AFTER deadlifts. correct?
I don't really Deadlift now adays but I don't really have someone teaching me proper technique like how to catch the clean and it took me a until late last summer and even now I still don't have it. I Clean only on my DE Lower Body days. I don't know if this makes any difference I clean with metal plates instead of rubber plates or maybe it's my long frame because at 6'2" 220 I am still lanky. But those are just excuses sooner or later I'll catch up.
DBJohn24
12-09-2005, 01:48 PM
I don't really Deadlift now adays but I don't really have someone teaching me proper technique like how to catch the clean and it took me a until late last summer and even now I still don't have it. I Clean only on my DE Lower Body days. I don't know if this makes any difference I clean with metal plates instead of rubber plates or maybe it's my long frame because at 6'2" 220 I am still lanky. But those are just excuses sooner or later I'll catch up.
yea well u dont really clean for weight so that will make a big difference what u max at. the guy who set the record at my school was 6'5", and the 2nd best was 320 by Sam Baker of USC who is 6'4". My friend who went to utep this year was 6'3" and he did 265. so im not sure height really has anything to do with it. when we power clean we catch it high. we dont do it like the olympic lifters do, or anything close.
footballstar
12-09-2005, 02:48 PM
yea well u dont really clean for weight so that will make a big difference what u max at. the guy who set the record at my school was 6'5", and the 2nd best was 320 by Sam Baker of USC who is 6'4". My friend who went to utep this year was 6'3" and he did 265. so im not sure height really has anything to do with it. when we power clean we catch it high. we dont do it like the olympic lifters do, or anything close.
There is probably some muscular imbalance that I have which makes my Power Clean so weak. Thinking about when I tried 250 I had the starting strength but didn't have a strong enough posterior chain to initiate the 2nd pull. There was a point were my Bench Press and Power Clean rose simultaneously but that could just be speculation. But at this point Im just confused why I am so weak at that lift.
meh, powerclean is too much technique to really use to "compare" strength(or in this case explosiveness)
DBJohn24
12-09-2005, 04:58 PM
meh, powerclean is too much technique to really use to "compare" strength(or in this case explosiveness)
well there isnt THAT much technique in a high catch power clean compared to olympic style.
biggieswoles21
12-09-2005, 05:31 PM
How do you increase your Power Clean? I have done it ever since I found bb.com, but I ahve never really increased it much. At our school we hang clean once a weak on our school routine.
bigjoe51
12-09-2005, 06:26 PM
I only started doing cleans about a month ago. Does anyone have say a link to a video that shows how to do them correctly? I'm just a little skeptical about how i'm doing them because i've heard many different opinions from people. Also, i don't think height has anything to do with it. Bob Sanders, Colts FS, is 5'8 and he cleans about 375.
frobro
12-09-2005, 07:05 PM
Just don't try to use your back and you should be fine.
DBJohn24
12-09-2005, 10:20 PM
Just don't try to use your back and you should be fine.
exactly. its all about your legs. the movement is a squat-jump, shrug and standing row rolled into one quick movement.
biggieswoles21
12-16-2005, 01:53 PM
I don't know much about cleaning but, are you supposed to feel a burn for it to get the best gains on speed, vertical, and explosiveness?
The reason I ask is because I never feel a thing, except maybe I breathe a little hard after I do my first set of ten reps. At our school workouts we pyramidon cleans, and if another rep scheme is better for explosiveness I will do it when the coaches aren't looking.
I don't know much about cleaning but, are you supposed to feel a burn for it to get the best gains on speed, vertical, and explosiveness?
The reason I ask is because I never feel a thing, except maybe I breathe a little hard after I do my first set of ten reps. At our school workouts we pyramidon cleans, and if another rep scheme is better for explosiveness I will do it when the coaches aren't looking.
Low reps, high speed/intensisty.
It is more of an explosaive exewrcise, not strength, so it probably will feel differrent from other lifts, though I do advise that you do it before other leg work, and dont do deadlifts or stuff like that on the same day.
biggieswoles21
12-16-2005, 09:39 PM
we always deadlift on hang clean day though.
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